Outdoor Gear Ripoffs and Overpriced Survival Gear

A lot of outdoor gear is a ripoff and overpriced, at least according to many of the comments I see. Here’s my opinion on ripoffs and expensive camping, bushcraft and survival gear. Sorry if I ranted a little.

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50 Comments

  1. Old Growth Artisans on February 22, 2021 at 9:05 pm

    You don’t deserve the amount of dislikes you have on this video. This is a very realistic and honest take on item pricing. I am my own business owner that makes everything by hand. We still try to be competitively priced, despite the fact that everything we do is very labor intensive. Even with slightly higher pricing than a mass manufacturer prices their items at, we are barely able to keep it going, but it’s the path we choose. I also make knives and I try to be competitive with my time charging over double of the knife you showed here, but even then I am still considering raising my prices dramatically to make it worth my time, because there is just so much labor involved to get it to a certain quality, using handmade methods. There are many people that believe they are entitled to something at a certain price, but like you said, prices are not based upon what people think they should get it for, they are based on overhead costs, labor, and perceived value. I think you did a good explanation, and haters are going to hate, regardless. I know I certainly can’t make everyone happy all the time. I just thought you might like to hear this.

  2. K L on February 22, 2021 at 9:08 pm

    …and you have nothing to apologize for…

  3. d- mon on February 22, 2021 at 9:08 pm

    Good job.

  4. Brent Campbell on February 22, 2021 at 9:09 pm

    You are spot on!!! Fellow self employed plumber here…

  5. Brett Law on February 22, 2021 at 9:10 pm

    Planned obsolescence.

  6. TheFightaz on February 22, 2021 at 9:12 pm

    Your price is a communicator of the quality and value of your brand. Build your brand of a product or service, do your best to keep the customer happy and kick out the mindset of being scared if the customer will think it is too expensive because that is a scarcity mindset. Be sold on your product or service and don’t compare your brand to the competition. The more value you give as you improve your brand then the more you get in return. Give value and be sold on your brand and the more you can charge! People will believe in your brand and will reward you as long as you solve their problem. And never take personal the ignorant masses that say it costs too much. There are prospects and suspects in business.

  7. Ryan Hull on February 22, 2021 at 9:17 pm

    I know what you mean, Bryan. My father in law owned a lawn mower repair shop for 50 years. He had certain customers that would ask him to do repairs on their mowers and he would tell them how much it would cost. They would say "no problem" and he would do the work. They would come in a few days later to pick it up and would get into an argument with him about how much it cost to fix their mower! He told them from the get go the cost. They would just try and get out of paying for the work. I don’t know how he put up with that garbage for all those years. Good grief, now I’M rambling 😂

  8. Roger Beckner on February 22, 2021 at 9:22 pm

    Perceived value! This is the true meaning. I bought two knives from Dave and they are just what they were supposed to be. One is for more robust work, where the other is for more camp-style work. I bought a DD tarp. It is about like any other tarp, but……….it has more tie downs and tie positions. It is also better made. Look at one and feel it in your hands. You will know the difference.

    I am old-school on stoves: Primus 71L, Optimus/Svea 123, MSR Whisperlite International, …….and my new addition……A Standard Firebox stove. None of my stoves are or have been considered to be rip-offs. They have a suitable niche in which I use them. Liquid fuel is to be used at altitude. The Firebox is for below the tree line.

    Value again. Pack is a Vietnam-era ALICE large pack and frame. Cost me little in comparison to the modern alternatives.

    Brush and batoning with a blade. Value: ‘Veres to Likker’, or Varusteleka Terava Skrama 240. I have blades to baton with, but why beat them when I have the Finnish sword?

    Ruger AR 556 and SR 1911, I could buy better, but they do the job well for the money paid. No weapon higher priced will make me more accurate.

    Clothing comes from Russia. Bars 4 for me. Has been more durable than US fatigues. Oh well. So I look like a Commie. But my gear wears like iron.

    Cooking gear is a split between MSR and Pathfinder gear. Best value for the buck.

    Do your research and find the best for yourself.

    But don’t call quality items rip-offs for what they cost. Just try and make them yourself! Then you will see. I sell fatwood shavings and sticks to a local surplus dealer. He has a need. I go ahead and run blisters on my hands to fill his orders. People cannot find fatwood or process it to what they need. So they will buy it off of him. I also wrap knives and axes with paracord. You want to know how many times I am yanked about how cheap it should be? GO OUT AND DO IT FOR YOURSELF!!

    If not, don’t bi*ch about it costing so much. Learn to do it yourself. Then you don’t have to pay my price. And I will be happy. Because I don’t have to do your stupid, simple sh*t things for you.

  9. Jon Freivald on February 22, 2021 at 9:22 pm

    Buy it once, cry once. Spend the money to get the tool you need, not some junk you will have to replace over and over…

  10. David Northrup on February 22, 2021 at 9:23 pm

    I agree 100%! It is called the free market system. As long as some one is not misrepresenting there product, then it is up to you to decide if it is worth it you.

  11. Mike Dunning on February 22, 2021 at 9:25 pm

    Berkey water filter #1.

  12. Jason Pettit on February 22, 2021 at 9:26 pm

    Don’t waste your time on uneducated people,or haters,just negativity all around,,,your a good person with great values,and I appreciate your time and knowledge,thanks for always sharing vids…

  13. Doug Ching on February 22, 2021 at 9:26 pm

    I just viewed this video. It is a great video, Bryan. People should realize that sometimes "you pay for what you get." Good quality products or services can be a little higher in the price range because of the costs of making a good product or providing high quality service. It’s basic business 101.

  14. Stillwater62 ## on February 22, 2021 at 9:26 pm

    Bryan, you are a hopeless rambler. I see no cure for your rambling, so I just move ahead in the video to the meat. Really do enjoy your videos, rambling and all. Thanks for taking the time to make them.

  15. downrangeops on February 22, 2021 at 9:27 pm

    One of the biggest rip-off’s I’ve seen lately are Firebox Stoves. I get it, there are some nice design features. But a stove is a stove, is a stove, period. If they were more realistically priced then we would all own one and keep our money in the West. How many outings a year are you going to use it? If it’s more than 6-10 outings then you are either unemployed or independently wealthy (joke). Don’t tell me that there is no peer pressure or hard sell to buy these expensive toys. I bought an equivalent stainless steel stove that rivals their G2 for around $18, shipped to my door. That was a $40 saving against the G2. Then I looked at the sales funnel. If you want to do what the YouTuber’s do, then you need to keep adding on accessories, which are by no means cheap. Part of the fun of going outdoors is fending for yourself. Learn to make do. I’ll bet there are dozens of these G2’s laying in a kit bag or a garage that seemed like a good idea (to boil a cup of water) at the time. If you can afford to blow money on toys like these then you should probably be staying in a hotel! Just saying …

  16. Wayne Price on February 22, 2021 at 9:28 pm

    Freedom of choice end of nobody is twisting your arm to by these things.

  17. nunnink av on February 22, 2021 at 9:30 pm

    Glad I found this one, classic. I’m not buying a Ferrari it’s a ripoff or am I just a cheap skate?

  18. Grizzly Country on February 22, 2021 at 9:32 pm

    *All the pathfinder/dave canterbury junk is overpriced.*

  19. TryNsurviveN on February 22, 2021 at 9:32 pm

    4 years later and I still agree with you on this.

  20. John May on February 22, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    Very good.

  21. Independent Thinker on February 22, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    Maybe they are just cheapskates and prefer dollar tree equipment

  22. Nurse Julie on February 22, 2021 at 9:35 pm

    Thank you for helping to define this basic economic concepts. IT’S NOT JUST SMALL BUSINESS OR SINGLE INDUSTRY. I’m in the healthcare industry and I’ve never seen any industry so full of clients who believe that if you receive the product or service, it doesn’t cost anything (or shouldn’t cost you anything?). If I go to Nordstrom’s and I buy a hat I expect to pay for it before I leave the store. In response to complaints I hear about healthcare costs in US I’d like to point out a couple of things. 1) we are in the business of healthcare if we don’t do business we can’t provide any healthcare. 2) Nurses, Therapists, Pharmacists & yes even Doctors are not on the high end of the pay scale (lifetime total) compared with the cost of the education they are required (& need) to have before they take care of you. Unfortunately in the United States there is a sad disconnect from reality and entitlement. In the olden days to even publish an opinion in the opinion column of a newspaper or magazine It had to have an editor go through it first, with social media that gate is gone. Thanks again for all you do. Thanks for letting me rant right back at ya.

  23. Russell Lieser on February 22, 2021 at 9:35 pm

    Well said.

  24. Disabled Prepper on February 22, 2021 at 9:36 pm

    I agree with you. For instance, many USA & Japanese made products have a tendency to be more expensive than comparable Chinese produced items (usually because the quality is better). If I have the money, I will purchase USA or Japanese made. If I don’t have the money, I guiltily purchase Chinese made. Regardless of what I have bought, I have never felt ripped off because I was willing to pay the price.

  25. Jerry Newman on February 22, 2021 at 9:37 pm

    Good job bryan

  26. Gene Optimus on February 22, 2021 at 9:38 pm

    I think anything that works for you at the price your confortable with is never a rip

  27. Spoken Mentality on February 22, 2021 at 9:39 pm

    Quality gear has along with it a quality price! On the same page budget gear has along with it a budget price! If you want quality then save up and get the quality! If you can’t wait then get the budget stuff till you can afford the quality stuff! Bottom line, the saying still remains the same, "You Get What You Pay For!"

  28. K L on February 22, 2021 at 9:39 pm

    You are spot on around business. The old cliche “you get what you pay for”. I buy American because of the quality.

  29. 3131biker on February 22, 2021 at 9:40 pm

    My response to those people is; then do it and quit complaining

  30. Neil Kearns on February 22, 2021 at 9:41 pm

    Hi mate I love your vids and you can ramble as long as long as you want to I smile every time I watch your clips stay strong mate 🇦🇨👍

  31. Shadow on February 22, 2021 at 9:42 pm

    Darn tootin’! Agree 100 percent. 🤙

  32. Mike Kennedy on February 22, 2021 at 9:43 pm

    Very good points. I have a small channel and dealing with negative comments gets tiring!

  33. John Ramsay on February 22, 2021 at 9:44 pm

    Well said. I couldn’t agree with you more.

  34. xyz kool on February 22, 2021 at 9:49 pm

    Right on. In my book if price does not meet expectation/customer service at that price point = rip off.
    Same deal with anything really like buying cars, hiring trades people, purchasing white goods. Fortunately, where I live we have working consumer rights. So we are legally protected from false advertising and any misconduct by the seller/advertiser — AND everyone is entitled a refund.

  35. William Morton on February 22, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    People who complain about ripoffs are usually people who don’t know the difference between their rectal aperture from their elbow. (Hope that was kid friendly. ) A good bit of kit at any price is better that most of the DIY or "got a good deal" stuff that I see many folks carry into the woods.
    I bought a Schrade SCHF42 after watching and considering your review. Couldn’t ask for something better to meet my needs. Even though you are in in Texas (?) where it’s nice and warm your choice of items to review is excellent.

  36. PewPrepTrek on February 22, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    Well said, brother. 👊

  37. Brn Recluse on February 22, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    Value is in the eye of the beholder.

  38. Anthony Coleman on February 22, 2021 at 9:51 pm

    Everything in Australia is expensive so people started to buy goods online from overseas, UK and USA. This is why so many shops are shutting down. Now the government tax these goods that come from overseas. If you don’t believe me how expensive it is here look online at shops here how much cars, runners, top brand jeans cost. Nothing seems like a ripoff in the USA compared to here

  39. Alex Siharath on February 22, 2021 at 9:51 pm

    As for the knife is its a man made or machine instead. Just want to know.

  40. G P on February 22, 2021 at 9:53 pm

    All sense. References used Mercedes vs Chevy Beers etc all state it clear. Perceived value and what people value as beneficial and necessary are all subjective and base don each buyer. A man may pay 30,000 more for a Mercedes over Chevy but believe 200 for a knife is too much. Also there is a difference between overpriced and ripoff; it is all relative and subjected to what one compares a product of category of product to. Further, there are types of markets and customers: some ppl shop based on price and believe higher price guarantees higher value or they go for the status quo premium buy. Or they may just like expensive stuff and or have the funding to do so; what is expensive to one may not be to another. And as you well said – if you choose to buy something for a price and get as described then that is not ripoff. You may say it is overpriced (as compared to other items) but it is not ripoff. The phrase is just used in a customary manner but the intent ppl have is more comparative i.e. that product is a ripoff but what they think and feel is I can get for cheaper doing same thing – ‘overpriced’ to them.

  41. Survival On Purpose on February 22, 2021 at 9:54 pm

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  42. seamus3051 on February 22, 2021 at 9:56 pm

    You’re rambling

  43. Chris Carson on February 22, 2021 at 9:57 pm

    A bad copy of a Russel knife. A Bic is a $1 and you can scatter em’ around your stuff. My stick I am replacing the spike on cost me $17, a lot of miles on rock, to wear it to a nub.

  44. Paul B. on February 22, 2021 at 9:57 pm

    Well said Brian

  45. John Urbanek on February 22, 2021 at 9:58 pm

    You also have to remember that today’s humans don’t care enough to learn what real quality is, what real labor is, or to tie their own shoes. The only thing they look at is which price tag has a smaller number on it.

  46. Alex Siharath on February 22, 2021 at 9:58 pm

    To the guy that build the dom.
    How much did he pay someone to do the job for him. Did he pay his employee decent wage. That’s what I am talking about.

  47. U Pete giardini on February 22, 2021 at 9:59 pm

    like your video

  48. Gil Blue on February 22, 2021 at 10:00 pm

    Well said!!!

  49. Mark Atkinson on February 22, 2021 at 10:01 pm

    You vote or choose with your dollar. If you don’t think it’s worth it, don’t buy it.

  50. Harrison Sizemore IV on February 22, 2021 at 10:03 pm

    Love your channel.

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